Question for you Scott

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 1:21 pm

Well I just bought a pair of Bangaii Cardinals and last night one just dropped like it had a heart attack or something. He was swimming fine all day and night and eating then in like a blink of an eye he just dropped to the sand dead. Very odd. After reading up some more on them i found something that said wild cought cardinals tend to do this if cought with chemicals. So to get to my question, do the friends of yours who breed fish have bangaii cardinals. I'd like to get a pair maybe, or one if i could figure out the sex of the one i have.

Post by **snoopdog** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:23 pm

I have a single one I would like to get rid of

titansgurl · Post by **titansgurl** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:42 pm

I'm really looking for a aquacultured pair. I know someone who might be able to get me some.

titansgurl · Post by **titansgurl** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 5:58 pm

opps, I posted that under the wrong name. Oh well Its for her tank anyway.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:06 pm

I am going down there over Mardi Gras. I will find out but last time I was down there they didn't see them as a marketable species and they are easily bred so that is two stikes against them. I am not sure if you had a chance to compare the two that you had but the male has a larger mouth. I think that is the only real way to tell males from females and unless you are looking at two side by side it may be hard to tell what is considered a larger mouth. I have your phone number so if they do have some I can drop them off on the way back.

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:44 pm

well I've been talking to Guy, from NY, and he has 4 breeding pair and tons of babies. I might by a maiting pair from him. That way i now they are a pair. It was just odd to see those fish just drop off in a few min after eating and looking good for two days.

Snakeman · Post by **Snakeman** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:58 pm

Fishfood wrote:well I've been talking to Guy, from NY, and he has 4 breeding pair and tons of babies. I might by a maiting pair from him. That way i now they are a pair. It was just odd to see those fish just drop off in a few min after eating and looking good for two days.

I had a mandarin do that, did great for a day and that was it. I really think it is from the poison they catch them with.

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:16 pm

yea, i didn't realize they use poison on cardinals. the damn things hardly swim... how hard is it to catch them. Then i read a post on RC where people have had the same experience. I mean it was the oddest thing. Perfectly fine one minute and dead on the sand the next. I've never seen that before.

Snakeman · Post by **Snakeman** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:21 pm

I wish stores wouldn't buy fish that are colected that way.

Post by **snoopdog** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:25 pm

I think most fish are still caught this way, they can catch more faster. Alot never wake up from the poison and are fish food at the bottom of the sea. Some die weeks later from after effects of the gas, I want to say there was a nice article by Sprung in the Concientious Marine Aquarist

Brandon · Post by **Brandon** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:29 pm

My understanding is the cyanide destroys the stomach lining or something like that so that althought the fish eats, their body does not absorb any of the nutrients and they slowly starve to death.

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:33 pm

well i wouldn't say it was slowly. I would say it was rather fast. Like 5 minutes from when it looked to be healthy and swimming around. Thats why i'm looking for a pair that is aquacultured.

Brandon · Post by **Brandon** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:51 pm

No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'!

...

Owner: No, no.....No, 'e's stunned!

Mr. Praline: STUNNED?!?

Owner: Yeah! You stunned him, just as he was wakin' up! Norwegian Blues stun easily, major.

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:57 pm

tell that to the brittle star!!

reeferpuffer · Post by **reeferpuffer** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 12:38 am

belive it or not, now a days, they do not use chemicals, its highly illegal and all fish are checked out by customs when they reach america. its in many updated books and all over the web, to late to find the links but you can search for yourself. they have companies that go and check blood samples and water samples and test for these types of chemicals. i had the ORA founder talk to me last year and that was one of my questions.