HR 669, the end of our hobby

Crustman · Post by **Crustman** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:27 pm

This new bill as proposed will end our hobby as we know it. It stops the trade and sale of all exotic pets, fish, corals, reptiles, amphibians, Ferrets, hamsters, birds and many others. No propagation selling or breeding. I know this is a political topic but it should be discussed. I have been collecting information on the bill. He is a video opposing it: http://www.nohr669.com:80/ The actual bill is here. http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin ... ih.txt.pdf and here is a sponsor,
http://www.house.gov/bordallo/Press_Rel ... 009-1.html

Seems they had a little problem with the Brown tree snake and lost all the native birds on their Island.

Crustman · Post by **Crustman** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:30 pm

Your current reef tank and inhabitants would be grandfathered in but don't expect to replace any losses.

Crustman · Post by **Crustman** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:36 pm

They are nice enough to let us keep Goldfish, a highly invasive species.

crsswift70 · Post by **crsswift70** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:46 pm

Well.. the underground coral trade will BOOM! Black market pulsing xenia.. who'd a thunk it?

Neuticle · Post by **Neuticle** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:14 pm

If this passes, I'm setting up a full frag tank and farming the crap out of everything I can get my mits on.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:57 am

I hate to say it but we did it to ourselves. If people would not release animals into the wild that don't belong, then this MAY have never come up as an issue. Think of all the non native species people release just becuse it outgrows their tank and also think of all the other reptiles people have released.

strout · Post by **strout** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:28 am

I have to belive that this will never pass. It will cost to many people their bussinesses and lively hoods. This bill would put pet stores out of bussiness. I can see it going back into committee to be rehashed and a new bill being worked out, maybe. I think what will happen in the long run is that Homeland Security will be given the power ( if they don't already have it ) to target certin species to be denied entry into the US. We will see, never can tell about Washington DC. We have a pet store here where I live that mainly sells snakes, they have this snake in a tank that is marked not for sell. The tank has a government sticker on the tank that says this snake can't be purchased, dont know the agency, didnt read it that close, I will next time I am in the store. The snake, forgot the type, I have seen on the discorvey channel, is some kind of S. American Viper. WHY would you have this snake in your store. This store, when Hurricane Katrina came thru had 8 ft of water in it, the storm comes thru today, that snake is out of his tank and roaming the streets. It makes no since to me.

Neuticle · Post by **Neuticle** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:33 am

S. American Viper? Perhaps a Verde Lance, those are some nasty little bastards.

strout · Post by **strout** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:35 am

I think thats what it is. It is kinda whitish looking and the pattern on the snake kinda looks like a dimond back.

Crustman · Post by **Crustman** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:35 pm

Fer de Lance, South American Pit Viper

Neuticle · Post by **Neuticle** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:45 pm

Crustman wrote:Fer de Lance, South American Pit Viper

Word, I worked in Central America for a short time, I could never understand what those people were telling me, in fact I'm impressed I got so close.

crsswift70 · Post by **crsswift70** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:25 pm

I think this was defeated today. It would have to be re-written and re-introduced.

strout · Post by **strout** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:32 pm