Setting up a refugium

megelBeagle · Post by **megelBeagle** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 9:47 pm

I've decide to make the leap and setup a sump based refugium. Problem is I don't know how.

I know a overflow, a tank, pump and some baffles are involved. But not much beyond that.
Is there a simple, cheap way to get this accomplished? My reef tank is 33 gallons, I was thinking I would get a 10-20 gallon tank to use as the refuge.... Any thoughts?
I'd like to spend less than $150 dollars (light and pump included)

SaltnLime · Post by **SaltnLime** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 11:29 pm

Your options are to either drill the tank and plump it to flow down into sump or use an overflow box with a U tube to siphon water down into the sump.

As far as what do do from there... it will depend alot on how much space under the stand you have.... if you want an auto top off setup (water reservior with a line going to a float valve in the sump that adds water as it evaporates) then you will need a place for the reservoir and the sump and in a stand the size you likely have that would be tough...unless you can place the reservoir outside the stand or opt to not have one.

Does the refugium have to be under the stand out of site or could you do a gravity fed refugium off to the side lower than the tank, and then flow back down to a sump under the tank? ( that would give you enough room in the sump for equiptment (return pump, skimmer, heater etc) while still having a seperate refuge area.) This would require a seperate stand for the refuge, but can be a nice setup....and most of us reef geeks find ourselves lying on the floor looking in the sump at the critters anyway... might be nice to have it out in the open for all to see.

Ill see if I can find some picture examples of differnt options... In the meanwhile maybe others can chime in.

tbmoore · Post by **tbmoore** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 3:14 am

There are lots of ways....I take a side stream or part of the water going from the main tank to the sump and send it to the fuge which is a few inches higher than the sump then had it drilled to drain to the sump....This way no pump is needed all I needed was a light...little bit to pvc couple of valves and a drilled tank....As a safety net I suggest having the fuge drilled with two drains to sump....in case one gets pluged up the other will catch it....

megelBeagle · Post by **megelBeagle** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:26 am

Thanks for the responses.
There is a closet (about 3'x4') right next to the tank. I have cleaned it out for this very purpose. I could place the fuge at any level inside the closet (thanks to some shelving) So I could place it above, below, or level with the tank. I really can easily place it whereever is most ideal.

I would like to avoid drilling, though. They don't let me use sharp objects or power tools.

Phishwater · Post by **Phishwater** » Wed Nov 24, 2004 8:47 am

megelBeagle wrote:They don't let me use sharp objects or power tools.

Thats for sure!

megelBeagle · Post by **megelBeagle** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 2:14 am

Alright I have purchased a 20 L refuge tank. It's sitting above the main tank in a closet. Those shelves came in handy. So I figured I would set up my Canister to take from the main tank and output into the refuge. Now I just need a good way to get the water back down to the main taink
What's the best overflow box?
That has to be higher rated than the water coming in right?
Can this thing break and flood my house?
What are the scenrios where the overflow box would fail?
What's the relationship between the GPH coming in and the rating of the overflow box.
What happened when the power goes out.
Where do babies come from?

Should I really think about drilling?

tbmoore · Post by **tbmoore** » Fri Nov 26, 2004 5:56 am

I personally would tank the tank and get it drilled....less chance of a mess....

andy4499 · Post by **andy4499** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:43 am

tbmoore wrote:I personally would tank the tank and get it drilled....less chance of a mess....

I agree

Post by **snoopdog** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 10:01 am

Get it drilled.

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:06 am

Two 1" bulkheads at the level you want the water is what i would do.

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:06 am

or 3/4", whatever is easier.

tbmoore · Post by **tbmoore** » Sat Nov 27, 2004 11:13 am

Oceanview in Pascagoula drilled mine for less than $10 with the bulkhead....and yes I would recommend two 1in since you do not want one to plug up......little safety will prevent a problem later....Good luck..

megelBeagle · Post by **megelBeagle** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:43 pm

tbmoore wrote:Oceanview in Pascagoula drilled mine for less than $10 with the bulkhead....and yes I would recommend two 1in since you do not want one to plug up......little safety will prevent a problem later....Good luck..

That's funny. That's the maker of all my tanks. I never thought about just going there. Thanks for the info.

megelBeagle · Post by **megelBeagle** » Sun Nov 28, 2004 11:45 pm

What's a good source for macro algea?

KrazyPlace · Post by **KrazyPlace** » Mon Nov 29, 2004 5:22 am

megelBeagle wrote:What's a good source for macro algea?

Either Shagman or me!

Let me know when you need it.

Setting up a refugium

Setting up a refugium

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