Cleaning Substrate

crsswift70 · Post by **crsswift70** » Wed May 07, 2008 10:51 pm

I wanted to get an idea of how often, or better yet how, people clean their substrate? I've got a fine sand that i don't think can be siphon cleaned.

reefman8471 · Post by **reefman8471** » Wed May 07, 2008 11:20 pm

It is generally best if you get animals that can clean it out for you such as nerite snails, sea cucumbers, and brittle stars. Also, when you do water changes you can move your siphon hose gently along the surface of the sand bed and remove anything lying on top of the sand.

James

crsswift70 · Post by **crsswift70** » Thu May 08, 2008 8:12 am

There really isn't anything on top. It's a silt like substance within the sand. if you stir up the sand, it creates a little dark dust cloud that settles back down. I'm sure it's because ive neglected it.

reefman8471 · Post by **reefman8471** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:00 am

Nerite snails will bury in the sand and may be able to help you. Sea cucumbers as well.

James

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:42 am

Actually Nassarius snails are the ones that burry in the sand and do the best job of taking in any left overs that make it to the sand bed. The Cerith snails also burry in the sand as well but tend to migrate to the glass at night. The Nerite snails are not sand snails if I recall correctly. The local nerites tend to live in salt marshes on emergant plants such as Spartina alternifloro or Juncus sp. I don't believe they like to be submurged at all times. I'm not sure if anyone locally is even carrying Nerite snails.

So if you want something to stir the sand get some nassarius snails.

DrHank · Post by **DrHank** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:53 am

There is also the ever popular sand sifting goby. My personal favorite is the Orange spot or diamond watchman goby. Make sure that your tank is covered with egg crate. They are notorious carpet surfers.

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Thu May 08, 2008 12:37 pm

DrHank wrote:There is also the ever popular sand sifting goby. My personal favorite is the Orange spot or diamond watchman goby. Make sure that your tank is covered with egg crate. They are notorious carpet surfers.

If you want pure white sand I'd agree that this is one way to go. My sand was never as white as when i had one. I'd be hesitant on putting one in a smaller sized tank though.

Post by **snoopdog** » Thu May 08, 2008 1:00 pm

Multiple Cucumbers will fix your "silt" problem.

crsswift70 · Post by **crsswift70** » Thu May 08, 2008 1:47 pm

it's just a 29gal tank. I have thought about getting a goby to stir things up. I'm not sure if it's big enough to keep him fed though. Do they eat flake food as well or only sift sand. it's really the "silt" that worries me. There really isn't any particulate matter thats visible besides that. Thanks for all of the suggestions. I know i need SOMETHING to stir up the top level of sand, just trying to determine what.

edit: snoop, how much are they normally and how many for a 29gal tank?

reefman8471 · Post by **reefman8471** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:05 pm

Fishfood you are right about the nerite snails...my bad. I really wasn't sure if it was nerite or nassarius snails that stir the sand.

James

Post by **snoopdog** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:54 am

crsswift70 wrote:snoop, how much are they normally and how many for a 29gal tank?

Well depends of the type but I guess most are $10 each for like a Tigertail. If you are actually getting that on the sand I would suggest at least two. I have one in our 29 gallon that is probably over a foot long when stretched out, I have a suspicion he is about to breed and "split" himself in half. Since we purchased more hermits, crabs, snails, etc and increased feeding he cannot keep up anymore. If he does not split soon I may be picking up another one.

crsswift70 · Post by **crsswift70** » Fri May 09, 2008 10:08 am

He'd be needed to clean the sand. My tank has a good bit of LR in it though, i don't think 2 would have enough room. thanks for the info though. i will look around to see if i can find a cucumber and some snails today.

Fishfood · Post by **Fishfood** » Fri May 09, 2008 10:26 am

You are right down the street from fat fish. They always have nassarius snails in. They might not right now since they just relocated but they have the larger and the smaller ones most of the time.

Post by **snoopdog** » Fri May 09, 2008 10:32 am

How many really depends on your load and feeding habits.

crsswift70 · Post by **crsswift70** » Fri May 09, 2008 9:27 pm

well, i got a cuke.. and i can see where 2 might work, They aren't speed demons are they

It's pretty much stayed in one spot and made a big pile of poo. My daughter was of course fascinated and disgusted by it. I'll let him work a bit before i decide on getting another. Snails next!

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