For those dripping kalkwasser

ShagMan · Post by **ShagMan** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:46 pm

Only downfall for me is that xenia doesn't grow well enough for me... I use the "king of the hill" method of determining who can export the most nutrients, and as you can see, cup macro outgrew: both types xenia, feather, spaghetti, grape macro. I would personally much rather grow xenia, but it's just not a fast-enough grower.

I guess I have plenty of room to try and grow both.... just think it would be softof a waste of space, since I could be growing more macro instead

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:54 pm

I have been using xenia as a filter for a while. I had thought about setting up a regugium with xenia only, but I do have some space limitations.

KrazyPlace · Post by **KrazyPlace** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 3:59 pm

I've gone to the higher authorities with my Xenia refugium idea: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showt ... did=361071

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:07 pm

I have read reports of it being done before. I don't see it being a large nutrient exporter like macro's.

Brandon · Post by **Brandon** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 4:17 pm

Reminds me of Calfos idea of a remote aiptaisa refugium.

Phisher · Post by **Phisher** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:22 pm

The xenia idea was posted on rc in the past. It was blasted fpr moral reasons, ie xenia is an animal, macro is a plant.

I personally had to institute a man made xenia crash last night that consisted of a pair of tweesers and about an hour- natural selection i call it.

I'm sure it will return.
"Its the circle of life" Lion King
"Life will find a way" Jurassic Park

Joe

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:28 pm

Brandon wrote:Reminds me of Calfos idea of a remote aiptaisa refugium.

Or Tyree's cryptic zone.

Brandon · Post by **Brandon** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:38 pm

LOL! The cryptic zone sounded like a disaster in the making, can you imagine the smell if it went south.
How about a clam-zone to filter nitrates.. set up a separate clam tank with angled glass in the front to handle your nitrates

KrazyPlace · Post by **KrazyPlace** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:43 pm

Scott wrote:...Tyree's cryptic zone...

Don't know anything about this one. I like krazy ideas... tell me more!

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:46 pm

I'll see if I can dig up the link, but it uses an unlit sealed container that has low flow and cryptic zone animals (like sponges and tunicates) to process wastes.

Brandon · Post by **Brandon** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:50 pm

http://www.dynamicecomorphology.com/
Click on Environmental Gradient at the bottom left.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:55 pm

Thanks Brandon, that is the one. I have not heard of any regular reef keepers using this but Calfo did mention something of the sort somewhere. I think that the difference was that Calfo's was more of a settling chamber.

http://www.dynamicecomorphology.com/getzoned.htm

Post by **snoopdog** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 8:32 pm

That is very interesting, i am going back to that link this weekend to do some more reading on it.

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:12 pm

They are very vague about the details because they want you to buy the system from them

Brandon, somewhere in the theory behind the cryptic zone they discuss the filtering ability of tunicates. They claim that tunicates can filter 323 gallons of water per day. One 3 inch clam can filter 16 gallons of water per day. One mature oyster can filter 60 gallons per day. Types of clams and oysters were not specified in any of the things that I read (that I can remember).

Scott · Post by **Scott** » Thu Apr 22, 2004 9:18 pm

Dr. Mac uses a macro, clam, xenia, dsb filter.

http://www.drmaccorals.com/sys-tmpl/our ... &UID=10028