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Sick Fish

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:58 pm
by Amyjoe
All of my fish in my 29 are ill. :cry: These guys have been around since the beginning for the most part, I know that the move of the corals stressed them out but you would think that the fish being moved out of the 75 would of gotten sick but NO it had to be the guys that didn't have anything done except some additions being placed in the tank. I just don't know what to think. Started out on my Clown who has been here since we set the 75 up originally and has now spread to the gramma, the bi-colored blenny and the Citron Goby. Little white dots that look like sand and now the Clown is getting what looks like ulcers on his body. We fresh water dipped her twice this weekend and she looked better until today. They are all eating. Maybe they will get better. :( Any suggestions?

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:59 pm
by Brandon
Got a 25 watt UV you can use if you think that would help.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:01 am
by Xster
Sounds bad :( But there is a possibility. What do you have in the 29??? any invertebrates?? sounds like ich to me? If you can catch the fishes and put in a another tank, you can treat with hyposalinity. Let me know if you will be able to catch the fishies.

John

Re: Sick Fish

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:02 am
by SaltnLime
Amyjoe wrote:All of my fish in my 29 are ill. :cry: These guys have been around since the beginning for the most part, I know that the move of the corals stressed them out but you would think that the fish being moved out of the 75 would of gotten sick but NO it had to be the guys that didn't have anything done except some additions being placed in the tank. I just don't know what to think. Started out on my Clown who has been here since we set the 75 up originally and has now spread to the gramma, the bi-colored blenny and the Citron Goby. Little white dots that look like sand and now the Clown is getting what looks like ulcers on his body. We fresh water dipped her twice this weekend and she looked better until today. They are all eating. Maybe they will get better. :( Any suggestions?
If they are eating there are some liquid medicines that you can soak food in. Any inverts in that tank........I think it has star fish and shrimps right?

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:03 am
by Amyjoe
We would have to pull them out to treat them with anything. There are several different kinds of corals in the tank. We have the availability to set up a hospital tank, I just hope we have the time to get it done.

Brandon, thanks for the offer I don't know about the UV that would be Kevin's bag... It may be an option.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:04 am
by SaltnLime
heh.. xster and I posted at the same time :-)

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:06 am
by Amyjoe
We are feeding garlic soaked scallops, it has worked in the past but we have been doing it since the clown got sick and now the others have it. They were fine earlier today.

Yeah there are inverts, shrimp, snails, and starfish.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:10 am
by Xster
Amy, there is enough time, as long as you continue to feed the fish in the hospital tank as well.

You need to set up a small tank, then slowly over a course of four or five days, drop the salinity to 1.009 or 1.008 for good measure. You will need a well-calibrated refractometer, I am sure you have one. Then, you will leave it at this salinity for two weeks. Then slowly bring it back up to normal salintiy, and then the ich trophants (sp) should be dead by now. Make sure the fishies have ich and ich only though. This has proven to work, I have tried it once at the hotel, and it worked. let me know if you have any questions

John

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:11 am
by Xster
You will need to drop the salinity with the fishies inside the hospital tank. Sorry for not being more clear.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:13 am
by Xster
In order to make sure your 29 is free of ich during this time, you need to get every single fish out of the 29. Without a host the ich will not complete its' life cycle.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 1:20 am
by reeferpuffer
this is what we do to treat at work...you need to raise the temperature to about 82-83 degrees, that speed up the cycle, then treat the tank with KENT Rxp...while treating the fish with rxp add maracyn 2. maracyn 1 will kill off your benificail bascteria but maracyn2 is not supposed to, by treating with that antibacterial, it prevents secondary infections seting in aka true fungal infections, bacterial... make sure you run no carbon also, copper is very poisonous to fish if you alk is not right... also you can use organicure wich has formaldahyde in it along with malachye green.. be careful with the malacyte b/c it has been known to cause some canders in the state of california... then treat for 5 days every other day checking water parms. that should cure up everyone...if you need anymore info call me, were having a fish medication seminar next thursday with mardell, and the kent representatives. we wanted to back all this info up, so i called many fish distributors and they told me all of this.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 6:58 am
by Snakeman
Add finely graded ginger to the food, I read a string on RC that this guy used it and the fish where ick free the next day. I feed my fish ginger and garlic every time i feed them there frozen food. That's every other day. It want hurt to try. You can get a ginger root at Wal-mart.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:11 am
by Xster
Amy, do you have any updates as far as this situation is concerned? I was just wondering what have you tried and if it did indeed work. Good Luck1

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 6:38 am
by Amyjoe
Well we set up the isolation tank to begin treatment and the fish all got better prior to removing them. We are still feeding the garlic soaked scallop as well as their regular flake food. The maroon clown is still healing but the film and spots are gone completely. They look a lot better.

Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 7:57 pm
by snoopdog
They are almost in perfect shape, never moved or medicated them.